Thursday, November 18, 2010

3/5ths Compromise and a conservative view



Today, I had one of the most interesting conversation with one of my classmates in my American Legal Systems class. He is very conservative. I mean VERY conservative. He believes that the constitution was written in such a way that each of the framers, some slaveholding, and very pious, believed that in 100 years, full rights would be exercised to everyone. He believes that Al Sharpton and Jeremiah Wright have put pressure on African Americans to always vote Democratic. I understood that as a hardcore conservative, that he would make these sort of points. One that got me today was the 3/5ths compromise.

His belief system was this. HE believed that abolitionists and anti-slavery advocates drummed up the three-fifths compromise to encourage slave rights, which would lead to black suffrage. It was amazing how he tried to convince everyone that what most learned since 2nd Grade Social Studies was the other way. Here is the facts.


Annotation:
The Constitution was a document based upon compromise: between larger and smaller states, between proponents of a strong central government and those who favored strong state governments, and, above all, between northern and southern states. Of all the compromises on which the Constitution rested, perhaps the most controversial was the Three-Fifths Compromise, an agreement to count three-fifths of a state's slaves in apportioning Representatives, Presidential electors, and direct taxes.
The three-fifths figure was the outgrowth of a debate that had taken place within the Continental Congress in 1783. The Articles of Confederation had apportioned taxes not according to population but according to land values. The states consistently undervalued their land in order to reduce their tax burden. To rectify this situation, a special committee recommended apportioning taxes by population. The Continental Congress debated the ratio of slaves to free persons at great length. Northerners favored a 4-to-3 ratio, while southerners favored a 2-to-1 or 4-to-1 ratio. Finally, James Madison suggested a compromise: a 5-to-3 ratio. All but two states--New Hampshire and Rhode Island--approved this recommendation. But because the Articles of Confederation required unanimous agreement, the proposal was defeated. When the Constitutional Convention met in 1787, it adopted Madison's earlier suggestion.
The taxes that the Three-Fifths Compromise dealt with were "direct" taxes, as opposed to excise or import taxes. It was not until 1798 that Congress imposed the first genuine direct taxes in American history: a tax on dwelling-houses and a tax on slaves aged 12 to 50.
The Three-Fifths Compromise greatly augmented southern political power. In the Continental Congress, where each state had an equal vote, there were only five states in which slavery was a major institution. Thus the southern states had about 38 percent of the seats in the Continental Congress. Because of the 1787 Three-Fifths Compromise, the southern states had nearly 45 percent of the seats in the first U.S. Congress, which took office in 1790.
It is ironic that it was a liberal northern delegate, James Wilson of Pennsylvania, who proposed the Three-Fifths Compromise, as a way to gain southern support for a new framework of government. Southern states had wanted representation apportioned by population; after the Virginia Plan was rejected, the Three-Fifths Compromise seemed to guarantee that the South would be strongly represented in the House of Representatives and would have disproportionate power in electing Presidents.
Over the long term, the Three-Fifths Compromise did not work as the South anticipated. Since the northern states grew more rapidly than the South, by 1820, southern representation in the House had fallen to 42 percent. Nevertheless, from Jefferson's election as President in 1800 to the 1850s, the three-fifths rule would help to elect slaveholding Presidents. Southern political power increasingly depended on the Senate, the President, and the admission of new slaveholding states.
It was about power. It was by no means necessary about slave rights or suffrage. No. In 1787, there were hardly many metropolitan areas as was in the North. The North was the industrial hub of the nation where manufacturing was king. There were hardly any fertile land for crops to be grown, so it became a place of industry and slavery was limited or not needed. In the South, however, agricultural, sparse land was only there. The population was not dense at all. It was spread out and land was sparingly used. With a small population, means that there are less electoral votes, less representation in the U.S. Congress, thus less political power in the south, where the North could forcefully impose anything they wanted on the South. Thus, slaves were counted as 3/5ths. There were loads of slaves in the South and could be used to bolster power in the South.

Thats the facts. I don't know where he came up with that, but I'd like to see it.

Friday, November 12, 2010

I'm not prejudiced, but I'm calling you a nigger thief.

Its amazing isn't it. You know, I always hear that the northern states don't have any racism from people who lived there, yet it seems you can find it if you look hard enough. Now, don't get me wrong, I live in Georgia. I know when someone humbly missteps or says a bigoted statement. Everyone has made at least one bigoted statement in their lives, including me. When I do it, and I see an uncomfortable person or a person who gets angry, I try to understand to apologize and tell the person I didn't know what exactly I said that was offensive, he or she tells me, and I make sure not to say it again. I try to do the same thing.  I also know when someone is outwardly and outright racist. Case in point.





Now, this cockney shrew, and I mean that with the utmost respect, did this to a guy that was only trying to do his job. Unfortunately, he was fired for it. Its not as if he struck her back after he struck him. Still, it doesn't look good in this day and age that someone who does their job to the best of their ability should not be fired for that.

This happened in the state of Massachusetts. The state that has the now re-elected black governor, Deval Patrick. The state that overwhelmingly voted for then Sen. Barack Obama in the 2008 U.S. Presidential election. I just wanted to show this to confirm to many that just because their political affiliation may be Democratic or liberal doesn't mean that racism doesn't permeate their supporters. Likewise that Republicans or conservatives have racists permeate throughout. On both sides, I hope to see that each side expels these views away. From what I have seen the last two weeks, I'm not too hopeful.

Wednesday, November 3, 2010

You know the feeling you get after being hit upside the head with a baseball bat?


Yeah, thats the Democrats today.

I gotta say, I'm in great deathly pain. Our state has just elected a man who might get federally indicted a month after the inauguration.

Ok, here's my assessment. Its the economy, stupid. And with 9.6% unemployment, people are not happy. In spite of all of the things the President and the Congress has done, each of them good, it does not stop the pain of the economic hurt in the nation. This, coupled with a majority of the 62 Million Americans who did not vote for President Obama in 2008, led the charge for the Republican Party to take the U.S. House and damn near the U.S. Senate and elected the first Orange American to be the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives. It was also a media problem. Its hell to solve it and with the media ad buys, its a wonder they even know the President. The biggest fault that President Obama and the White House did was to stop doing press conferences and primetime news interviews. When he did those, everybody was attentive and saw his viewpoint. He needs to start doing those again, especially with Republicans in charge in the House. Two, and this is a problem with the Democrats, FOLLOW THE FRIGGIN LEADER!!!!! 39 House Blue Dogs voted against healthcare reform. 12 of them are left. Trying to become Republicans didn't help them much. Of course, neither did it help many candidates with (D) behind their name. If you run from positions the President advocates, it doesn't make the position very popular and voters will not reward you for standing up.



(Have Mercy.)

As you can understand, Republicans across the nation are gleeful and they should be. They won the friggin U.S. House with a margin larger than there was in World War Two.
They have been having these every hour on the hour for the past 24 hours. And theirs were real.


But make no mistake. Republicans are still lowly regarded than Democrats on favor ability and according to polls, people expect to be disappointed by your actions. So, though you won, your party still has something to prove. Just as well, we have to wonder about the Republican leadership and the tea party candidates that won. The ones that most of you didn't back.

You can also understand the Democrats.............




Democrats, liberal and conservative, setting up a primary challenge against Barack Obama in 2012 is a bad idea. It didn't work in 1968, nor 2000, nor 1980, so no, it will not make him more liberal/centrist. It will make him lose.  And who you are planning to challenge him with. For the conservative Dems, Evan Bayh!!?? Fuck no. There is a reason he isn't vice president and the shit he pulled in Indiana shows it. For the liberals, Alan Grayson, Russ Feingold, and Howard Dean have all one thing in common. THEY LOST!!!!!!!!!!! Running him against losers in a year where we might be seeing something totally different is not only stupid, but further leads to Democrats as a whole not taking you seriously. Hell, if the GOP is engineering polls saying its likely a primary challenge will happen, it should give you pause. Take a breath. Lay down. Get your spouse, partner, boy/girl/hookup and get some angry sex going with them. Hell, most of you had victory sex after the President won, have some angry ones now.

Its surprising how after the election, it proves both liberals and conservatives were correct at least to liberals and conservatives.
All in all, we will get through it. Its American politics. It'll be hard as all frig and frack hell, but that we will get through it.


UPDATE: IT BEGINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its gonna be fun. Stay tuned.